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		<title>By: Isabelle</title>
		<link>http://www.unlikelywords.com/2004/08/28/intermarriage/comment-page-1/#comment-1361</link>
		<dc:creator>Isabelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so understand how you feel! 

Myself, for a long time, use to feel like my birth was second-rate - therefore I was second-rate - because my Mom was not Jewish...

When my Dad tried to involve me in the Jewish community, they (the Rabbies) just told him that I would have to convert to be a Jewish. 

Ever seen a Cohanim convert? LOL

On the other hand, at my Mom&#039;s Church, and despite Baptism, they wouldn&#039;t let me commune as I was born from a Jewish father... :-(

Oh well... I am still &quot;sitting between 2 chairs&quot; but I have finally adjusted with the situation; I have turned my dual religious education into strengh rather than weakness, and I have made my own ways to believe and practice (an odd mix actually... LOL) 

Oh, and I married a Protestant! LOL

Good luck! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so understand how you feel! </p>
<p>Myself, for a long time, use to feel like my birth was second-rate &#8211; therefore I was second-rate &#8211; because my Mom was not Jewish&#8230;</p>
<p>When my Dad tried to involve me in the Jewish community, they (the Rabbies) just told him that I would have to convert to be a Jewish. </p>
<p>Ever seen a Cohanim convert? LOL</p>
<p>On the other hand, at my Mom&#8217;s Church, and despite Baptism, they wouldn&#8217;t let me commune as I was born from a Jewish father&#8230; :-(</p>
<p>Oh well&#8230; I am still &#8220;sitting between 2 chairs&#8221; but I have finally adjusted with the situation; I have turned my dual religious education into strengh rather than weakness, and I have made my own ways to believe and practice (an odd mix actually&#8230; LOL) </p>
<p>Oh, and I married a Protestant! LOL</p>
<p>Good luck! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.unlikelywords.com/2004/08/28/intermarriage/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

Thanks for your comment. You&#039;re absolutely right that it&#039;s the marriage, and not the cermony, that matters most. (And since we&#039;ve now been married for almost a year and half, you can imagine the sting has lessened somewhat.)

On the other hand, it&#039;s precisely because finding a Jewish community to belong to was important to me that I was so infuriated by the rabbis&#039; failure to help us out. While I&#039;m sure our local rabbi would welcome us after the wedding, and while I&#039;m sure your wife would too, I hope you can understand how insulting that seems to me anyway. While a rabbi might welcome us as part of his or her congregation even though he or she wouldn&#039;t do our wedding, his or her refusal to do our wedding would ensure that we&#039;d never &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to join his or her congregation.

And I&#039;d never ask a rabbi to compromise their principles... rather than compromise their principles, I&#039;d rather they &lt;i&gt;change&lt;/i&gt; them and value community, openness, and the long-term view of what it means to be a welcoming congregation over (in my opinion) counter-productive insistence on an arbitrary standard.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. You&#8217;re absolutely right that it&#8217;s the marriage, and not the cermony, that matters most. (And since we&#8217;ve now been married for almost a year and half, you can imagine the sting has lessened somewhat.)</p>
<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s precisely because finding a Jewish community to belong to was important to me that I was so infuriated by the rabbis&#8217; failure to help us out. While I&#8217;m sure our local rabbi would welcome us after the wedding, and while I&#8217;m sure your wife would too, I hope you can understand how insulting that seems to me anyway. While a rabbi might welcome us as part of his or her congregation even though he or she wouldn&#8217;t do our wedding, his or her refusal to do our wedding would ensure that we&#8217;d never <em>want</em> to join his or her congregation.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d never ask a rabbi to compromise their principles&#8230; rather than compromise their principles, I&#8217;d rather they <i>change</i> them and value community, openness, and the long-term view of what it means to be a welcoming congregation over (in my opinion) counter-productive insistence on an arbitrary standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.unlikelywords.com/2004/08/28/intermarriage/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Wife is a Reform Rabbi and she would say no to doing your wedding ceremony as well. She is not being unkind at all by saying &quot;NO&quot;.  Why should the Rabbi be expected to compromise their principles? Don&#039;t be upset ..Just respect that persons on clergy&#039;s right to do what is best for their soul. A Rabbi is not a servant and must uphold ther own integrity. I understand your anger but lookk in the mirror if I asked you to go against your priciples ...would you? Also please understand that your Judaism should be tied to history, family and learning ...NOT to a Synagogue. You have choices ,its sad to move on from the place you grew up but find a home where your  principles and the Rabbis are in sync. There is nothing wrong with that at all.  .....Anyway its the marriage and not the cermony that the Rabbi should really care about ....Im sure that smae Rabbi at your Synagogue will welcoem you and your wife and future children with open arms after your ceremony...My wife does and that is the most important principle. Your home is not the Huppa. Your home is the Synagogue. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Wife is a Reform Rabbi and she would say no to doing your wedding ceremony as well. She is not being unkind at all by saying &#8220;NO&#8221;.  Why should the Rabbi be expected to compromise their principles? Don&#8217;t be upset ..Just respect that persons on clergy&#8217;s right to do what is best for their soul. A Rabbi is not a servant and must uphold ther own integrity. I understand your anger but lookk in the mirror if I asked you to go against your priciples &#8230;would you? Also please understand that your Judaism should be tied to history, family and learning &#8230;NOT to a Synagogue. You have choices ,its sad to move on from the place you grew up but find a home where your  principles and the Rabbis are in sync. There is nothing wrong with that at all.  &#8230;..Anyway its the marriage and not the cermony that the Rabbi should really care about &#8230;.Im sure that smae Rabbi at your Synagogue will welcoem you and your wife and future children with open arms after your ceremony&#8230;My wife does and that is the most important principle. Your home is not the Huppa. Your home is the Synagogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Monie</title>
		<link>http://www.unlikelywords.com/2004/08/28/intermarriage/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Monie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys... Wow. First things first. Matt, I stumbled on your website yesterday, and haven&#039;t been able to stop reading it... I actually have it saved in my &#039;favorites&#039; folder now. This whole &#039;intermarraige&#039; thing here is sad. I face sort of the same problem. Not exactly the same, but kinda... My boyfriend is White and I am black. This has raised all sorts of eyebrows in &#039;MY&#039; family... His family is perfectly fine with it, and have accepted me totally and completely. My mom has told me that if I go ahead and marry him (we&#039;re thinking about it because we&#039;ve been together for over two years now), then I should consider myself shut out of the family. I don&#039;t (can&#039;t) understand it, but I guess I&#039;ve accepted it. 

Amy, I can only imagine what you&#039;re going through... I agree with you when you say there&#039;s no easy answer, but like Matt said, maybe time can help thaw out their stance?.. 

Matt, I wouldn&#039;t lose faith... I know you&#039;re a little disillusioned or even hurt, but it&#039;s God you put your faith in, and not the Rabbis&#039;, you know? They wear the robes, they say the prayers, they know the book, but at the end of it all, they&#039;re only &#039;human&#039;, you know? Apparently, there&#039;s something about your religion that has kept some fire burning in you all these years... don&#039;t let anyone keep you from having a relationship with God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys&#8230; Wow. First things first. Matt, I stumbled on your website yesterday, and haven&#8217;t been able to stop reading it&#8230; I actually have it saved in my &#8216;favorites&#8217; folder now. This whole &#8216;intermarraige&#8217; thing here is sad. I face sort of the same problem. Not exactly the same, but kinda&#8230; My boyfriend is White and I am black. This has raised all sorts of eyebrows in &#8216;MY&#8217; family&#8230; His family is perfectly fine with it, and have accepted me totally and completely. My mom has told me that if I go ahead and marry him (we&#8217;re thinking about it because we&#8217;ve been together for over two years now), then I should consider myself shut out of the family. I don&#8217;t (can&#8217;t) understand it, but I guess I&#8217;ve accepted it. </p>
<p>Amy, I can only imagine what you&#8217;re going through&#8230; I agree with you when you say there&#8217;s no easy answer, but like Matt said, maybe time can help thaw out their stance?.. </p>
<p>Matt, I wouldn&#8217;t lose faith&#8230; I know you&#8217;re a little disillusioned or even hurt, but it&#8217;s God you put your faith in, and not the Rabbis&#8217;, you know? They wear the robes, they say the prayers, they know the book, but at the end of it all, they&#8217;re only &#8216;human&#8217;, you know? Apparently, there&#8217;s something about your religion that has kept some fire burning in you all these years&#8230; don&#8217;t let anyone keep you from having a relationship with God.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.unlikelywords.com/2004/08/28/intermarriage/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

What a horrible situation; I&#039;m so sorry. 
  
My aunt says, as a way of explaning her husband&#039;s behavior: &quot;There are some people who go on vacation and take lots of pictures of their family and friends, and some who just take pictures of landscapes.&quot; Some people get stuck on big ideas and &quot;principles&quot; and can&#039;t see the actual human people involved. It&#039;s got to be even more heartbreaking when it&#039;s your own father who has this limitation. 
  
Here&#039;s hoping time can help thaw out your family&#039;s rigid stance. I hope that your father will come to realize that his position gains him nothing and risks losing him a daughter and a son. 
  
Best of luck. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>What a horrible situation; I&#8217;m so sorry. </p>
<p>My aunt says, as a way of explaning her husband&#8217;s behavior: &#8220;There are some people who go on vacation and take lots of pictures of their family and friends, and some who just take pictures of landscapes.&#8221; Some people get stuck on big ideas and &#8220;principles&#8221; and can&#8217;t see the actual human people involved. It&#8217;s got to be even more heartbreaking when it&#8217;s your own father who has this limitation. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping time can help thaw out your family&#8217;s rigid stance. I hope that your father will come to realize that his position gains him nothing and risks losing him a daughter and a son. </p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read your article and am emotionally connected to it.  I am the daughter of a reform rabbi, dating a non jewish (irish catholic) man, and we want to be married. my father will not only not perform the ceremony, but refuses to acknowledge the existence of the marriage if we choose to get married.  I am deeply troubled by this, as I am extremely close with my family.  My boyfriend, also, has expressed that if being jewish is important, the children will be raised as jews and that he will learn enough to be able to participate and enjoy holidays and customs with me.  however, he will not convert.  my family has outwardly told him that they will not accept our marriage unless he converts, which has made him resentful and saddened by my family.  My family believes that if he &quot;loves&quot; me enough and doesnt want to hurt my family, that he would convert for the purpose of making a united family.  The whole situation is frustrating and there is no easy answer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read your article and am emotionally connected to it.  I am the daughter of a reform rabbi, dating a non jewish (irish catholic) man, and we want to be married. my father will not only not perform the ceremony, but refuses to acknowledge the existence of the marriage if we choose to get married.  I am deeply troubled by this, as I am extremely close with my family.  My boyfriend, also, has expressed that if being jewish is important, the children will be raised as jews and that he will learn enough to be able to participate and enjoy holidays and customs with me.  however, he will not convert.  my family has outwardly told him that they will not accept our marriage unless he converts, which has made him resentful and saddened by my family.  My family believes that if he &#8220;loves&#8221; me enough and doesnt want to hurt my family, that he would convert for the purpose of making a united family.  The whole situation is frustrating and there is no easy answer.</p>
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